Разбор анализов гормонов, советы от специалиста

Ты решил меня ловить на слове? Я привык. :)

1. Я не говорил, что Андрогены вызывают заболевания щитовидной железы.
Покажи, будь добр, где я это написал, может у меня потеря памяти...

2. Расскажи, пожалуйста, как андрогенные препараты влияют на РЕЗУЛЬТАТ ОТОБРАЖЕНИЯ показателей гормонов щитовидной железы, только не со ссылкой на профессора, которого никто кроме тебя не видел, и на справочник, напечатанный в 1960 году, своими словами, пожалуйста, мы поймём. Не на их уровни, повторюсь, а именно на РЕЗУЛЬТАТ ОТОБРАЖЕНИЯ.

3. Что касается моей точки зрения. Извини, я первых три исследования тебе покажу, ссылки на которые у меня сохранены, это не профЭссура, конечно же, мнением которой ты оперируешь (сомнительно, кстати, что они такое сказали, крайне), но всё же...

Гугл-переводчиком умеешь пользоваться?

1 . http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/036354658701500411
Androgenic-anabolic steroid effects on serum thyroid, pituitary and steroid hormones in athletes

Abstract
Endocrine responses in seven power athletes were investigated during a 12 week strength training period, when the athletes were taking high doses of andro genic-anabolic steroids, and during the 13 weeks fol lowing drug withdrawal. During the use of steroids significant decreases (P < 0.05 to 0.001) in the serum concentrations of thyroid stimulating hormone, thyrox ine, triidothyronine, free thyroxine, and thyroid hor mone-binding globulin (TBG) were found, whereas the value of triidothyronine uptake increased (P < 0.001). In relation to the changes in the thyroid function param eters measured, we suggest that the primary target of androgen action was TBG biosynthesis. In five of the seven subjects, serum concentrations of growth hor mone increased at some point of the study 5 to 60- fold. Because of the use of exogenous testosterone, serum testosterone concentration tended to increase. This increase was associated with a corresponding increase (P < 0.001) in serum estradiol. Furthermore, there were major decreases in serum LH (P < 0.01) and FSH (P < 0.01) concentrations, and testicular tes tosterone production was therefore decreased. This was characterized by a very low serum testosterone concentration (5.1 ± 1.8 nmol/l) 4 weeks following drug withdrawal. Cessation of drug use resulted in return of all the variables measured to the initial values, except for serum testosterone, which was at a low level (14.6 ± 8.8 nmol/l) 9 weeks after drug withdrawal, indicating prolonged impairment of testicular endocrine function. No consistent changes were found in the eight control athletes.

2. https://academic.oup.com/jcem/artic...en-to-the-Thyrotropin?redirectedFrom=fulltext

The Relationship of Androgen to the Thyrotropin and Prolactin Responses to Thyrotropin-Releasing Hormone in Hypogonadal and Normal Men*

Abstract
Fluoxymesterone, an androgen not converted to estrogen, caused a significant decrease in the TSH response to TRH in 11 men with primary hypogonadism [maximum change in TSH: before treatment, 11.3 ° 0.9 juU/ml (mean ° SE); 8.9 ° 1.0 after 2 weeks (P < 0.001); 8.2 ° 1.1 after6 weeks (P < 0.01)]. There was a significant fall in serum Ti−binding globulin (TBG) (measured directly by RIA) without a change in the free T4 or free T3 index. Fluoxymesterone had no effect on the PRL response to TRH in hypogonadal men. The results suggest that 1) androgen per se is at least partly responsible for the lower TSH response to TRH in men compared to women and 2) androgen is not a cause of the lower PRL response to TRH in men.

3. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8473383

Ingestion of androgenic-anabolic steroids induces mild thyroidal impairment in male body builders.

Abstract
Self-administration of very high doses of androgenic anabolic steroids is common use in power athletes because of their favorable effect on performance. Since androgenic steroids decrease serum T4-binding globulin (TBG) concentrations dramatically, we were interested in the effects of this procedure on thyroid function: we performed TRH tests (200 micrograms Relefact, i.v.), with blood withdrawal before and for 180 min after injection, for determination, using RIA kits, of serum concentrations of total and free T4, total T3, TSH, and TBG in 13 young (20-29 yr old) male body builders with clinically normal thyroid glands, who were all in the same state of training. Five of these athletes admitted taking androgenic anabolic steroids at an average total dose of 1.2 g/week for at least 6 weeks before the tests. TBG, total T4, and total T3 were significantly (P < 0.001) decreased, whereas basal TSH and free T4 were not significantly different from the values of the other 8 without androgenic steroids. The maximum TSH increase after TRH administration (mean +/- SE, 16 -/+ 6 vs. 9 -/+ 4 mU/L; P < 0.05) was relatively increased, whereas the T3 response to TRH (0.61 -/+ 0.10 vs. 1.13 -/+ 0.13 nmol/L; P < 0.05) was relatively decreased in the group receiving androgens. The 5 patients taking androgens had significantly greater weight (114 vs. 90 kg; P < 0.01) and higher total cholesterol levels (6.3 -/+ 1.3 vs. 3.8 -/+ 0.3 mmol/L; P < 0.05) together with very low high density lipoprotein cholesterol levels (0.20 -/+ 0.03 vs. 1.03 -/+ 0.10; P < 0.001) than the controls. PRL levels were normal and similar in both groups. We conclude from our results that high dose androgenic anabolic steroid administration leads to a relative impairment (within the normal range) of thyroid function. Whether this is due to a direct thyroid hormone release (or synthesis?)-blocking effect of these steroids needs further investigation.

P.S.: Ты хоть читай внимательно то, к чему ты решил придраться.

 

Привет!
Нет, нельзя.
Стоит снизить Пролактин, для начала.
Каберголин- 0,25 мг раз в 7 дней, 4 приёма.

 

Там нет такой вероятности, значительной, по крайней мере, но замещение чаще всего нужно, просто для всех- на разных этапах.

Скучный он...

 

Уже восстановил, всё нормально. :)

Слушай, пока что ты подтираешь за собой глупые сообщения, а я их восстанавливаю.
Страна должна знать своих героев.

 

Привет!
Снижение вовсе не резкое, и "придавливает" Тестостерон высокий уровень Эстрадиола, если очень грубо сказать.
Анастрозол- 0,5 мг через день, на 14 дней, и посмотри на свой Тестостерон.

 

Если он постоянно завышен, то стоит сходить на МРТ.
Да, остальное всё в норме.

 

Ты вот не мог сделать вид, что шокирован предоставленной аргументацией, и находишься в растерянности?